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Planning red tape to be ripped up
« on: May 21, 2007, 09:48:02 AM »
I love this!  noooo:

Quote from: BBC Web Site
LONDON (Reuters) - The government aims to speed up cumbersome planning decisions on major infrastructure projects, including nuclear power stations and wind farms, to fight global warming and boost the economy.

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This paves the way for your neighbours to have a wind-generator on their roof to fight global warming ? and you?ll be able to do nothing about it.

Once again this government dresses up legislation to save the environment and because: -

Quote from: Ruth Kelly
Local people find that an incredibly difficult system to manage

What a load of bollocks! Why can?t they just be honest about this for once in their festering ten years of farcical money grabbing dishonest lying cheating rule?

I personally believe there is some merit in the government taking difficult planning decisions if they are in line with their manifesto. For instance, if the government commits to nuclear power and the people see fit to vote them in on the back of it then they should be able to make decisions about building them without spending the next ten years on a public enquiry.

The system is farcical at the moment anyway ? everybody knows that the T5 enquiry was a foregone conclusion ? they started the earthworks before it was even half way though ? it was just a show enquiry. Far from the locals (who didn?t want it) finding the system ?difficult to manage? they begrudged the huge expense when it was clear that their opinion simply didn?t matter.

But, don?t steamroller legislation through parliament on the basis that it will be good for everybody if that clearly isn?t the case.
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 11:07:07 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 11:10:47 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.

In a nutshell, yes.

Can I interest you in some pre-owned Harwell film badges?

They were all the rage round here in the 60's.
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 11:12:41 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.
Oh yes?

But you won?t find the new legislation ?so difficult to manage? so that?s all right then.  happy088
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 11:13:07 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.

But would they?

If the end of your road was a suitable site then why not? They have to go somewhere.

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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 11:24:17 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.


Complain away, you won't give them the back-handers needed to swing things in your direction so you'll get nowt.

They don't listen, They are not remotely interested in your views.

The citizens of this country are being reduced to having as many rights as the occupants of a holding pen at an abbotoir,  We count for two things, as working taxpayers or as benefit claiming voters.   Oh, and the occasional opportunity to go die for your country.

After the latest disgraceful exhibition last Friday of exempting themselves from their own law, I think they have sunk as low as it is possible for a corrupt government to go.   They are a pestulance on every honest citizen of this festering fly-blown shit hole of a democtatic Nation.

I don't like them either.

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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 11:31:56 AM »
Hang on, if I understand the legislation correctly that means that a company could build a nuclear power station at the end of my road and I could do bugger all to complain about it.

But would they?

If the end of your road was a suitable site then why not? They have to go somewhere.
Depends?

If they had the courage of their convictions and included (for example) ?We are committed to nuclear power and over the term of our government will commence the building of five new reactors? in their manifesto, then they?d have in my opinion a mandate to proceed.

In which case, given that the decision making was just and lawful (i.e. not taken because they got a huge ?loan? to build them) then I can see that it makes little sense to have a ten-year planning enquiry.
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 02:02:34 PM »
great, I can finally build an incinerator at the bottom of the garden

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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 02:04:09 PM »
great, I can finally build an incinerator at the bottom of the garden
Actually, that would be good use of the new legislation ? you could heat your house with old car tyres.  razz:
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 06:50:41 AM »
Off we go again!

Quote from: BBC Web Site
A public inquiry into British Airport Authority (BAA) plans for a second runway at Stansted Airport in Essex is due to start on Wednesday.

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Can there be anybody that seriously thinks this is unlikely to go ahead?

Even with the bloody Eskimos campaigning against it now I can?t see this being anything other than an expensive drawn-out enquiry, wasting millions and causing more pollution than the ?antis? hope to save.

And the conclusion will be the same.
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 07:42:28 AM »
Even with the bloody Eskimos campaigning against it now. .
I must have missed the "Inuits favour Luton" headlines. ::)

Or is "Stanstead Nell" still in business?
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 07:44:15 AM »
Of course the expansion will go ahead. There's been enough money spent on the infrastructure and road system around the airport already which will not be allowed to go to waste.

Nimbys and hypocrites, the lot of them. I bet most of them use the airport for their holidays and business trips.

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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 07:49:34 AM »
Even with the bloody Eskimos campaigning against it now. .
I must have missed the "Inuits favour Luton" headlines. ::)

Or is "Stanstead Nell" still in business?
It was on the radio this morning (I can?t find a link). Inuits are campaigning against the expansion at Stanstead on the basis that any expansion of any aviation-related activity will make it more difficult for them to survive (but not to go on holiday obviously).  whistle:
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Re: Planning red tape to be ripped up
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 07:50:26 AM »
Of course the expansion will go ahead. There's been enough money spent on the infrastructure and road system around the airport already which will not be allowed to go to waste.

Nimbys and hypocrites, the lot of them. I bet most of them use the airport for their holidays and business trips.
Agreed ? you just need to look at the road and rail links ? no need for an enquiry.
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