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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5235 on: January 16, 2018, 10:54:20 PM »
Edwin Hawkins

"Oh happy day." That was his catchphrase! Not yesterday, obviously  redface:
Thought he was already dead.  Had a brief moment of fame with a couple of stonking good songs (didn't he back Melanie - what happened to her?)

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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5236 on: January 17, 2018, 06:31:12 AM »
Edwin Hawkins

"Oh happy day." That was his catchphrase! Not yesterday, obviously  redface:
Thought he was already dead.  Had a brief moment of fame with a couple of stonking good songs (didn't he back Melanie - what happened to her?)

RIP

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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5237 on: January 17, 2018, 11:39:50 AM »
Dolores O’Riordan, the lead singer with the multi-platinum band the Cranberries, has died aged 46  eeek:

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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5238 on: January 17, 2018, 05:14:53 PM »
Jenny 'I shall wear purple' Joseph 85

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42700952

I'm not great on poetry but Warning is a good one

https://pluckthatpoem.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/warning-by-jenny-joseph/

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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5239 on: January 17, 2018, 05:20:40 PM »
Buy Mrs Steve a red hat for her birthday, you say?  scared2:

PS I sent the poem to Miss I who loves it and says she has a new role model.  cloud9:
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5240 on: January 17, 2018, 05:41:51 PM »
Buy Mrs Steve a red hat for her birthday, you say?  scared2:

PS I sent the poem to Miss I who loves it and says she has a new role model.  cloud9:

Shame she didn't write a poem about the clap then  eh...? ::)
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5241 on: January 17, 2018, 05:46:01 PM »
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5242 on: January 17, 2018, 09:16:20 PM »
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« Reply #5243 on: January 17, 2018, 09:22:19 PM »
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5245 on: January 18, 2018, 08:12:32 AM »
Just so you are all clear, like:

Peter Wyngarde's date and place of birth, his birth name, and his parent's nationalities and occupations are all disputed. According to his biography at IMDb,[1] which is not supported by any primary sources but often used in other accounts of his life,[2][3][4] he was born Peter Paul Wyngarde on 23 August 1933 to a French mother at an aunt's home in Marseille, France. In September 2017 Peter Wyngarde gave a detailed interview about his life to the website of his Appreciation Society, where he explained that his British father, a Mr Wyngarde, worked for the British Diplomatic Service in various countries across Asia.[5][3] He is also said to be the nephew of French actor-director Louis Jouvet.

Primary sources indicate a likely different birth name, year of birth and family background.

About Wyngarde's year of birth there is considerable variation. Different sources quote or suggest dates between 1924 and 1933.[note 1] In a 1993 interview Wyngarde claimed not to know his own age.[14]

Wyngarde gave his place of birth as Singapore on a 1960 immigration application,[11][15] although a 1956 Straits Times article about his mother does give Marseille as his birthplace.[13]

Evidence suggests that Wyngarde's original name was Cyril Goldbert and that he changed his name after arriving in the UK in the mid 1940s.[10] Author J. G. Ballard wrote in his memoir (and stated in interviews and private letters[16]) that he and his family knew Wyngarde as Cyril Goldbert in Shanghai during World War II,[6][17] but Wyngarde has denied knowing Ballard.[5]

Peter Wyngarde's mother was Marcheritta "Madge" Goldbert, née Ahin, later Macauley. The Ahins were a Eurasian family living in Singapore in the 1890s.[18] Records indicate that she was a Swiss national and that she re-married in 1947[19] and moved to Malaysia. An article in Singapore's Straits Times in 1956 included her photograph and an interview about her son's acting career.[13] Wyngarde claimed in a 1993 interview that his mother was a racing driver.[14]

On his arrival in the UK in 1945, Cyril Goldbert's next of kin and UK contact is named as Mr H. Goldbert.[20] This is highly likely to be Madge's former husband Henry Goldbert who was living in Liverpool at this time. Henry Goldbert was born in Russia[21] and likely Jewish.[22][original research?] He was British, having become a naturalised British subject in 1919 after living in Singapore since childhood.[21] Biographical statements issued by the official Peter Wyngarde Appreciation Society (PWAS) deny that Henry Goldbert was Wyngarde's father, and state that his father was a British diplomat named Wyngarde.[5] After a diplomatic career in Hong Kong, Malaya, Singapore and India, Wyngarde Senior is said to have become an importer-exporter in London and to have lived in the very upscale address of Eaton Square.[23] There is no record of a Mr Wyngarde Senior in any publicly available vital records, nor in travel and immigration information nor in UK electoral rolls. Henry Goldbert did have some similar aspects to his life: he also travelled extensively in South East Asia, although not as a diplomat but as Second Chief Engineer in the British Merchant Navy, including on the SS Lyemoon in 1942.[24] Peter Wyngarde said in a 2017 interview that when he arrived in the UK in 1945 his father met his ship in Liverpool.[5] It seems likely that this was Henry Goldbert, who was his stated next of kin for the journey and who lived in Liverpool.
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5246 on: January 18, 2018, 08:16:41 AM »
Just so you are all clear, like:

Peter Wyngarde's date and place of birth, his birth name, and his parent's nationalities and occupations are all disputed. According to his biography at IMDb,[1] which is not supported by any primary sources but often used in other accounts of his life,[2][3][4] he was born Peter Paul Wyngarde on 23 August 1933 to a French mother at an aunt's home in Marseille, France. In September 2017 Peter Wyngarde gave a detailed interview about his life to the website of his Appreciation Society, where he explained that his British father, a Mr Wyngarde, worked for the British Diplomatic Service in various countries across Asia.[5][3] He is also said to be the nephew of French actor-director Louis Jouvet.

Primary sources indicate a likely different birth name, year of birth and family background.

About Wyngarde's year of birth there is considerable variation. Different sources quote or suggest dates between 1924 and 1933.[note 1] In a 1993 interview Wyngarde claimed not to know his own age.[14]

Wyngarde gave his place of birth as Singapore on a 1960 immigration application,[11][15] although a 1956 Straits Times article about his mother does give Marseille as his birthplace.[13]

Evidence suggests that Wyngarde's original name was Cyril Goldbert and that he changed his name after arriving in the UK in the mid 1940s.[10] Author J. G. Ballard wrote in his memoir (and stated in interviews and private letters[16]) that he and his family knew Wyngarde as Cyril Goldbert in Shanghai during World War II,[6][17] but Wyngarde has denied knowing Ballard.[5]

Peter Wyngarde's mother was Marcheritta "Madge" Goldbert, née Ahin, later Macauley. The Ahins were a Eurasian family living in Singapore in the 1890s.[18] Records indicate that she was a Swiss national and that she re-married in 1947[19] and moved to Malaysia. An article in Singapore's Straits Times in 1956 included her photograph and an interview about her son's acting career.[13] Wyngarde claimed in a 1993 interview that his mother was a racing driver.[14]

On his arrival in the UK in 1945, Cyril Goldbert's next of kin and UK contact is named as Mr H. Goldbert.[20] This is highly likely to be Madge's former husband Henry Goldbert who was living in Liverpool at this time. Henry Goldbert was born in Russia[21] and likely Jewish.[22][original research?] He was British, having become a naturalised British subject in 1919 after living in Singapore since childhood.[21] Biographical statements issued by the official Peter Wyngarde Appreciation Society (PWAS) deny that Henry Goldbert was Wyngarde's father, and state that his father was a British diplomat named Wyngarde.[5] After a diplomatic career in Hong Kong, Malaya, Singapore and India, Wyngarde Senior is said to have become an importer-exporter in London and to have lived in the very upscale address of Eaton Square.[23] There is no record of a Mr Wyngarde Senior in any publicly available vital records, nor in travel and immigration information nor in UK electoral rolls. Henry Goldbert did have some similar aspects to his life: he also travelled extensively in South East Asia, although not as a diplomat but as Second Chief Engineer in the British Merchant Navy, including on the SS Lyemoon in 1942.[24] Peter Wyngarde said in a 2017 interview that when he arrived in the UK in 1945 his father met his ship in Liverpool.[5] It seems likely that this was Henry Goldbert, who was his stated next of kin for the journey and who lived in Liverpool.

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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5247 on: January 18, 2018, 08:17:30 AM »
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Re: In Memory of "Friends" Departed
« Reply #5248 on: January 18, 2018, 09:03:47 AM »
Is he dead then?

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« Reply #5249 on: January 18, 2018, 09:13:42 AM »
Yes ::)
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