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Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« on: April 13, 2008, 08:07:18 AM »
Quote from: Sunday Times
PLANS for a third runway at Heathrow, the world’s busiest international airport, flout safety guidelines by placing a proposed crash-landing zone on top of a motorway junction.

The missiting emerged in an investigation by The Sunday Times into the expansion of Heathrow. The investigation also revealed that figures for carbon emissions and the impact on air quality have been downplayed. The government is under pressure to rethink the £12.7 billion project.

BAA, the airports operator, has decided that the risk of a plane crashing into the six-lane motorway, which rises to 65ft (20 metres), does not merit relocating the M25/M4 junction.

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This is a great story – if this doesn’t boil your piss nothing will…  cussing:

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It is so clearly a ‘done deal’ it is untrue – like T5 the decision has been made and no rule or regulation is going to stand in the way of it…  noooo:
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2008, 08:38:38 AM »
As you say. This is a done deal. IIRC the planning process was amended last year or the year before to make it far more difficult to object to major schemes like this
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 08:53:26 AM »
As you say. This is a done deal. IIRC the planning process was amended last year or the year before to make it far more difficult to object to major schemes like this
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2008, 09:57:15 AM »
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 11:51:16 AM »
To be fair the sudden appearance of a burning jet could be the only thing that clears the motorway gridlock these days.  whistle:
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 12:38:32 PM »
To be fair the sudden appearance of a burning jet could be the only thing that clears the motorway gridlock these days.  whistle:
If you look at the plans, the larger aircraft using the new runway will miss the M4/M25 junction by a few feet – they’ll have to lower the streetlights FFS.  Banghead

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…or being engulfed in a flaming ball of Jet A1.  scared2:
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 12:46:45 PM »
Note to self: Any time that Nick's travel plans involve that junction - AVOID LIKE THE BLEEDIN' PLAGUE!!!!!!!!!  scared2:
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 01:18:30 PM »




Looking at the plans and doing a 'back of the fag packet' calculation I'd say a 747 would clear the junction by 300 -500 metres depending on how far down the runway it gets before take off.



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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 01:24:12 PM »




Looking at the plans and doing a 'back of the fag packet' calculation I'd say a 747 would clear the junction by 300 -500 metres depending on how far down the runway it gets before take off.



But they want to add another 500m to the runway length over the original plans... Hence the need to lower the streetlights on the junction...
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 01:29:49 PM »
Couldn't they stick the extra 500 metres on the east end of the runway?

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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 01:36:30 PM »
Couldn't they stick the extra 500 metres on the east end of the runway?
Oh dear, oh dear Uncle…  noooo:

You are assuming that there is some form of rational thought process that follows this instead of some back handing/thieving/troughing justification by MPs…  point:

I dunno to be honest but having spent most of my life living around Heathrow I’ve taken an interest in it. Reading the report of the council is astonishing and when you think about it (if you know the area at all) the whole idea is farcical…  Banghead
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 01:40:02 PM »
Couldn't they stick the extra 500 metres on the east end of the runway?
Oh dear, oh dear Uncle…  noooo:

You are assuming that there is some form of rational thought process that follows this instead of some back handing/thieving/troughing justification by MPs…  point:

I dunno to be honest but having spent most of my life living around Heathrow I’ve taken an interest in it. Reading the report of the council is astonishing and when you think about it (if you know the area at all) the whole idea is farcical…  Banghead

You are mistaken, Reading is a lot further down the M4 than Heathrow. Silly Barman.

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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 01:41:40 PM »
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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 01:47:52 PM »
Given that a new airport should have been built at Maplin back in the 70s but wasn't there seems to be little choice but to shoehorn more and more in at Heathrow.

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Re: Heathrow plans crash zone on motorway
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 01:49:11 PM »
Given that a new airport should have been built at Maplin back in the 70s but wasn't there seems to be little choice but to shoehorn more and more in at Heathrow.


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