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Offline TG

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Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« on: July 04, 2008, 06:27:28 PM »
Well it's been a week and and I still don't know if I'm redundant or not.

Heres the deal, Monday morning we are all gathered together and 38 letters are handed out saying 7 of the 38 will go.

There will be a day for people to volunteer then 'meetings' with each employee.

We have all been marked by our bosses. We we given our score at the individual meeting. there are 5 people in my dept. 3 had the same score plus 1 with a higher and 1 with a lower score.

They tell me this (yesterday) and tell me the following:

You are in the middle so that doesnt mean you are in the group who go into the 7, however, even if you were last that wouldnt mean you were automatically in the drop zone, also, if you were top it doesnt mean you are safe either. In fact there may be no-one from your dept in the drop zone because we need you all. And even if you are in the 7 that means nothing because we will need to consult further with all the 7 that are selected and things may change. We have to follow the letter of the law. Thsi may take another week and may go into the following week.

Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the box and I understand employees have to be protected. But by Christ, 2 weeks to decide and action the redundancy of 7 out of 38 is a fucking joke.


I'm sure you can imagine the atmosphere at our place at present.

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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 06:33:59 PM »
Tsk  noooo:

Raise your hand and say "Please sir, I'll save you the grief but it will cost you twice the statutory redundancy"

Settle for no less that one and a half times the legal entitlement, clear your desk and have a holiday.

They are going under and when they do there may not be generous terms to be had but whilst they are deluding themselves you might as well get what you can.
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 10:13:20 AM »
They do handle these things badly.

I was notified in January 1997 that a restructuring menat that I had to reapply for my own job. About 10 of us were in the same boat (but there would only be 5 jobs). During Feb, March and April I received a range of conflicting informatin from the Personnel numpties. I wanted to take redundnacy and go, but was told that failure to apply for my own jobb (which I didn't want) would be deemed to be resignation.

The union were very helpful (clandestine meetings in hotel lobbies!) and we reached an agreement in June 5 minutes before the scheduled job interview. My solicitor had to countersign the agreement and I had arranged for him to sit in the local pub to which I had to run!

The deal done, my union rep then said "I must see my next client now." And who was that. The Head of Personnel.

SHe left the next day.!

I was required to go on doing my job for a further three months.I got a sick note and pissed off on holiday.

It was a fiasco that lasted for 6 months. (The process NOT the holiday, that is)

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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 04:57:30 PM »
I am not in the same earning bracket as some.

I asked about voluntary redundancy and was told the amount will be the same regardless. It will be the government minimum, which is about 7.5k. Plus 3 months severance pay.



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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 05:06:28 PM »
Quote from: TG on July 05, 2008, 04:57:30 PM
I am not in the same earning bracket as some.

I asked about voluntary redundancy and was told the amount will be the same regardless. It will be the government minimum, which is about 7.5k. Plus 3 months severance pay.





Chin up lad ~ everything happens for a reason. This could be just what you need.
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 05:12:04 PM »
Wot he said  ^^^   

Come and join the ranks of the self employed. I haven't taken a wage in over 20 years, duckin' 'n' divin', up 'n' down like Tower Bridge. Bit chilly out here at the moment though  cry:
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 01:27:50 PM »
Snoopy speaks sense. I too will be out of work soon, but the nearer it comes the happier I feel.

Time to start afresh - I'm damn sure that I can make a go of it on a self employed basis.
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2008, 08:39:09 AM »
Board meeting going on now as MD and wife (also a director are back).

It seems there was a break in here last night. MD's and personell directors offices trashed.  point:

Weren't me guv, 'onest.  surrender:
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2008, 08:42:27 AM »
Speaking from years in the Security Industry this is following a familiar pattern.
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 12:02:49 PM »
here darling our puddies could make us some dosh, or better still take em to work and lure the customers in... rubschin:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/expats/expats_news/article1208669.ece

( i do apologise for the source of story, it was lou that sent me that link)  noooo:
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 12:17:08 PM »
Quote from: Mrs TG on July 07, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
here darling our puddies could make us some dosh, or better still take em to work and lure the customers in... rubschin:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/expats/expats_news/article1208669.ece

( i do apologise for the source of story, it was lou that sent me that link)  noooo:


You could breed and sell cats (if you didn't keep having their nuts chopped off that is)
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2008, 12:21:12 PM »
Would that be by mail order?  rubschin:
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 12:29:27 PM »
No ~ via the local pet shop.

I knew a guy who had a python ..... the guy got fed up with having to visit the pet shop to buy one white mouse a week to feed it on so started breeding white mice, fed some to his python and sold the rest to other python owners via the pet shop. Shop owner and he split the profit 50/50. Until he told me about it I had no idea that so many people kept pythons and thet they fed them live mice. Apparently it gives the snake exercise. eeek:

 rubschin: Come to think of it I have known some strange people in my time.
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2008, 12:31:55 PM »
I find my mind turning towards crocodiles  rubschin:
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Re: Waiting for the hammer to fall.
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2008, 01:32:33 PM »
It's started. One gone that we know of.  scared2:
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