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Offline Snoopy

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NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« on: July 17, 2008, 12:07:45 PM »
Well let's start with this self satified twat then:


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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: Snoopy on July 17, 2008, 12:07:45 PM
Well let's start with this self satified twat then:




so whats this about then?
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 02:18:07 PM »
Ex postman now running the NHS ~ name of Alan Johnson MP Minister of State for Health

He was a twat when I knew him in his Post office days and he is a twat now.

Since he is advocating helping people to die at home rather than in hospital (and coincidently save the NHS a lot of money by doing so) I was merely suggesting that we might assist him as a trial run like  whistle:
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 03:59:26 PM »
Quote from: Snoopy on July 17, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Ex postman now running the NHS ~ name of Alan Johnson MP Minister of State for Health

He was a twat when I knew him in his Post office days and he is a twat now.

Since he is advocating helping people to die at home rather than in hospital (and coincidently save the NHS a lot of money by doing so) I was merely suggesting that we might assist him as a trial run like  whistle:
Hang him like...  rubschin:
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 04:02:26 PM »
Quote from: Barman on July 17, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: Snoopy on July 17, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Ex postman now running the NHS ~ name of Alan Johnson MP Minister of State for Health

He was a twat when I knew him in his Post office days and he is a twat now.

Since he is advocating helping people to die at home rather than in hospital (and coincidently save the NHS a lot of money by doing so) I was merely suggesting that we might assist him as a trial run like  whistle:
Hang him like...  rubschin:

At home?
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 04:06:02 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Mort on July 17, 2008, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: Barman on July 17, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: Snoopy on July 17, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Ex postman now running the NHS ~ name of Alan Johnson MP Minister of State for Health

He was a twat when I knew him in his Post office days and he is a twat now.

Since he is advocating helping people to die at home rather than in hospital (and coincidently save the NHS a lot of money by doing so) I was merely suggesting that we might assist him as a trial run like  whistle:
Hang him like...  rubschin:

At home?
Yes...
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 07:28:10 PM »
He wants to succeed Gordo!

Let us trash him!
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 06:08:17 PM »
Having sadi that there is a part of me that thinks it isnt that bad an idea. Think about it, you are on your last legs and you have the choice of passing away at home or in a hospital where the staff are underpaid and overworked, the cleanliness is suspect because the trust have had to tender the cleaning contract to the lowest bidding company due to budget constraints and the less said about the food the better.

Where would you choose?
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 06:13:48 PM »
Yes you are right. I think I would like to inflict the trauma of my last hours on my small children, have my wife widow clean up the mess (You of all people should know that death is a messy business) and then sleep in the marital bed in which I breathed my last. It would be really considerate of me to insist that I should die at home so that the children could enjoy the spectacle of undertakers coming round to collect the corpse of their father. Who knows I may even manage a last merry quip to leave them laughing or a few well chosen words of wisdom to ensure my place in history. What pleasant and happy memories to leave them all.  ::)
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 06:55:11 PM »
I did say only a part of me thought it wasnt that bad an idea Snoop. My point of view is coloured by having to say goodbye to a close friend on a hospital ward and that experience was horrific. 
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 08:01:24 AM »
Given a free choice I would like to travel back to my beloved Hampshire and quietly pass away in some leafy bower close to the Basingstoke Canal. Bit in the style reputed to be as elephants do when they feel their time is right. It is where I came from and where I would like to rest but it is unlikely to happen that way. noooo:
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 12:05:22 PM »
Quote from: Snoopy on July 21, 2008, 06:13:48 PM
Yes you are right. I think I would like to inflict the trauma of my last hours on my small children, have my wife widow clean up the mess (You of all people should know that death is a messy business) and then sleep in the marital bed in which I breathed my last. It would be really considerate of me to insist that I should die at home so that the children could enjoy the spectacle of undertakers coming round to collect the corpse of their father. Who knows I may even manage a last merry quip to leave them laughing or a few well chosen words of wisdom to ensure my place in history. What pleasant and happy memories to leave them all.  ::)

Honestly it isn't as bad as all that. We had my Dad at home for what we thought would be days and turned into just over four weeks. We wouldn't have had it any other way.

The undertaker thing was a bit grizzley though. Mother and Brother Wench sat outside on the terrace and I dealt with that bit.
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2008, 12:23:54 PM »
And like my children you were what ~ 10 or perhaps 7 years old?  noooo:
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2008, 12:27:28 PM »
Quote from: Snoopy on July 22, 2008, 12:23:54 PM
And like my children you were what ~ 10 or perhaps 7 years old?  noooo:

True, we weren't, but in all honesty I think it would have been the same even if we were. In fact they did with Grandpa when we were that age.
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Re: NHS offers more help to die with dignity at home
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 01:54:03 PM »
I am with Snoops.I have a favourite place and, like an elephant, I would go there. Still messy. My FiL chose to die at home and it was awful. Mymother died alone in bed suddenly at home and my father died in hospital. It is not nice. Oh, I dunno. It only happens once. What feels right at time. And who gets a vote?
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