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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2008, 10:41:09 AM »
In that case we agree. But you asked "why do schools need headteachers?" I said why, and now you have backed off.

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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2008, 10:45:57 AM »
Thats true, and I'm not saying that if you put an administrator in place they should have total control of the school. But if you can create a post that takes up most of the day to day admin and red tape that a head teacher currently has to deal with then you have a chance of making the post more appealing as well as giving the visionary head teachers more time to be able to do what means so much to them.

That would be a fantastic idea. A person that would work in tandem with the head to take over the vast majority of the admin and red tape. Leaving the head free to do his actual job and perhaps teach a couple of classes a week too. They would benefit as would the kids.

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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2008, 10:48:24 AM »
The Boy's school is big enough to have a "secretariat". That is what they do, 4 of them.

The Head motivates, leads, insipires and sorts out probs.

Argument, unfortunately, for either bigger schools or better school funding. His last school was weeny. Hopeless head spent all day filling in forms with one PT secretary to field calls.
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 10:48:49 AM »
In that case we agree. But you asked "why do schools need headteachers?" I said why, and now you have backed off.

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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2008, 10:50:06 AM »
The Boy's school is big enough to have a "secretariat". That is what they do, 4 of them.

The Head motivates, leads, insipires and sorts out probs.

Argument, unfortunately, for either bigger schools or better school funding. His last school was weeny. Hopeless head spent all day filling in forms with one PT secretary to field calls.

Unfortunately the government has already got an answer for the first argument and probably the second one as well with its 'academies'
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2008, 10:51:07 AM »
Not for primary. And the stuff about Academies is ideological, not managerial
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2008, 11:19:39 AM »
And another prob with recruiting male heads (and teachers) are the worries about being accused of being a paedo for wanting to work with small children.

Also an issue. During teacher training there was a two hour lecture only for male students covering this aspect, very very strict guidelines. Mr Wench won't even do private tutoring for female students the risk is just too high.

We used to advise tutors to keep the door open and ask the mother to bring them cups of tea.
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2008, 11:20:26 AM »
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2008, 11:24:49 AM »
Not for primary. And the stuff about Academies is ideological, not managerial

Just wait and see, given the chance they will expand the program if they think they cen get away with it.
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2008, 11:26:29 AM »
Fair point, but myoriginal argument stands

See also: http://www.ncsl.org.uk/
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2008, 11:35:05 AM »
The Boy's school is big enough to have a "secretariat". That is what they do, 4 of them.

The Head motivates, leads, insipires and sorts out probs.

Argument, unfortunately, for either bigger schools or better school funding. His last school was weeny. Hopeless head spent all day filling in forms with one PT secretary to field calls.

Small beer indeed.
The THW's school has a teaching staff of 105 (that includes the "special needs" people), a secretariat of 15 and a "behaviour " team of 24  eeek:
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2008, 11:51:08 AM »
The Boy's school is big enough to have a "secretariat". That is what they do, 4 of them.

The Head motivates, leads, insipires and sorts out probs.

Argument, unfortunately, for either bigger schools or better school funding. His last school was weeny. Hopeless head spent all day filling in forms with one PT secretary to field calls.

Small beer indeed.
The THW's school has a teaching staff of 105 (that includes the "special needs" people), a secretariat of 15 and a "behaviour " team of 24  eeek:

Jack Baur?  eeek:
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2008, 11:52:53 AM »
The Boy's school is big enough to have a "secretariat". That is what they do, 4 of them.

The Head motivates, leads, insipires and sorts out probs.

Argument, unfortunately, for either bigger schools or better school funding. His last school was weeny. Hopeless head spent all day filling in forms with one PT secretary to field calls.

Small beer indeed.
The THW's school has a teaching staff of 105 (that includes the "special needs" people), a secretariat of 15 and a "behaviour " team of 24  eeek:

Jack Baur?  eeek:

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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2008, 12:19:45 PM »
"The following takes place between 6am and 5pm on the first day of term..."  whistle:
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Re: Shortage of Head Teachers
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2008, 12:23:05 PM »
Seriously ~ even the teachers refer to them as "The Gestapo". They have been infiltrated and trained over the past year but this new term is the first time they have all been in place. At the moment, according to the THW, they are a damn nuisance as they have only a few "problem" kids to deal with and are contstantly patrolling looking for trouble.
He denies it but we believe that as this county doesn't have a "behavioural unit" in any school and hitherto sent their hooligans to Flintshire for "Corrective Education" the new head intends to create such a unit here and cream the extra budget. County would be behind this move on cost grounds as they have to pay to transport and accommodate their miscreants in the Flintshire unit and the new head gets more money, more staff and more brownie points. Previous heads have always refused to have anything to do with such a scheme.
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