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Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« on: October 15, 2008, 06:26:16 PM »
Just the thing for when Nick visits London..

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A secret network of tunnels 100ft (30m) under central London has gone on sale.

The Kingsway Tunnels were built in 1940 as deep air-raid shelters which could accommodate 8,000 people.

They have since been used as a public record library and a telephone exchange. The Post Office took over the tunnels after World War Two.

Now its successor, BT, is selling the 77,000 sq ft of space, and the firm hopes the sale could attract offers of about £5m.

Unmarked doors

Access to the mile-long system of horizontal and vertical shafts is through unmarked doors in the street on High Holborn.

The tunnels once housed the telephone exchange which connected the Cold War hotline between the presidents of the US and USSR.

BT put the site up for sale in 1996 but failed to find a buyer, but now the company hopes to find a government department or large company to move in and make the site productive again.

Elaine Hewitt, group property director for BT, said: "We are looking for a purchaser with the imagination and stature to return the tunnels to productive use.

"The site has the most fantastic history and, now that we have no requirement for it for telecommunications use, it is right that we should offer it to the market."

The unique nature of the site means it is unsuitable for conversion into a hotel or office, BT said.
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 11:45:17 AM »
Not the only such site in Greater London either.
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 12:22:30 PM »
I've got a strange facination and love for tunnels and underground hidy holes.  cloud9:

Must be the bit of cave man still in me.

There's a set similar to this in Liverpool apparently, open to the public too. Must go sometime, as well as the smugglers tunnels at the far end of Wirral which lead to old Mother Redcaps ale house from the 16th century or summat.

Must look the info up.

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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 12:23:12 PM »
Wanna buy some places in my air raid shelter?
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 12:27:12 PM »
Wanna buy some places in my air raid shelter?

Your cellar/shelter place is bloody mint mate. Can't believe you haven't opened it up to the PAYING public tbh.
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 12:27:50 PM »
I am open to sizeable offers, wot with all Planet X panic and all.
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 03:30:50 PM »
Surely this is public property...?

Originally The Post Office and inherited by BT - what right have they to sell it?  cussing:
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 04:01:07 PM »
It's my air raid shelter, not BT's.What are you blathering about?
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 06:39:54 PM »
It's my air raid shelter, not BT's.What are you blathering about?

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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 08:50:13 AM »
Surely this is public property...?

Originally The Post Office and inherited by BT - what right have they to sell it?  cussing:

When the Government first caused these places to be built various departments were involved. Over time, as those departments have waxed and waned, bits have been hived off. Responsibilities have been shuffled to hide maintenance costs and the like in various budgets. Much of the "secret" stuff ended up the responsibility of the Post Office, which was a natural home as the PO also looked after radio, radar and telecommunications as well as TV and Dog licensing.

In the early 70s British Telecom was created and split off from the Post Office as a first step toward privatisation. Budgets and financial responsibilities changed dramatically and many old PO tunnels and "research establishments" were transferred to BT. As privatisation took hold so the issue of these "facilities" became ever harder to hide in the accounts. As with any land, building etc they had to have a "book value" and the maintenance costs had to be declared. Nobody argued and frankly the Civil Service were glad to get shot of the problem so BT ended up as the owner of a great many redundant premises. Many of these have been let out over the years to a wide variety of businesses. One such, that I have a good knowledge of, was for some considerable time used as a research and development centre by Cadbury (later Cadbury Schweppes) where they developed a number of new products. It is actually just off the North Circular Road, not far from Staples Corner. A labyrinth of buildings, Nissan huts and tunnels that has now been sold off and converted into an industrial estate but as late as 1993 it was still a closely guarded secret with a substantial security bill paid by BT ~ Cadbury Schweppes being the acceptable public face of the site but in reality they leased only a small portion of it.

Coming up to date Nulabour having accepted wholeheartedly embraced Conservative notions of market forces and privatisation and having the usual Socialist attitude toward national security and our history are cheerfully selling what little of the "family silver" is left ~ reasoning, no doubt, that if a plastic spoon is good enough for their mothers it is good enough for the rest of us (although they personally wouldn't be seen dead with a plastic spoon). Cash raised by such sell offs will go a long way to covering up Brown's mistakes.
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 10:50:46 AM »
I've got a strange facination and love for tunnels and underground hidy holes.  cloud9:

Must be the bit of cave man still in me.

There's a set similar to this in Liverpool apparently, open to the public too. Must go sometime, as well as the smugglers tunnels at the far end of Wirral which lead to old Mother Redcaps ale house from the 16th century or summat.

Must look the info up.

http://www.williamsontunnels.com/
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Re: Anyone interested in a Nick shelter?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 01:02:08 PM »
I've got a strange facination and love for tunnels and underground hidy holes.  cloud9:

Must be the bit of cave man still in me.

There's a set similar to this in Liverpool apparently, open to the public too. Must go sometime, as well as the smugglers tunnels at the far end of Wirral which lead to old Mother Redcaps ale house from the 16th century or summat.

Must look the info up.

http://www.williamsontunnels.com/


Ta. ;)

My bessy mates son werks in the Mesey Tunnel. Did you know it was originally supposed to be on two tiers, but the lower section is now just used as a service tunnel. It's dead old and spooky down there apparently. scared2:
Must see if i can go and have a shufties some time. Fascinating.