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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2008, 09:00:10 AM »
Is an earring really worth a huge family row?  scared2:

Probably not BUT a man has a right to expect some respect from his son. If the boy/man wishes to wear an earing that is his affair but why flaunt it to his father? Why not take the damn thing out when he visits if he knows it is going to upset the old man? That is what annoys ~ the obviously deliberate attempt to stick two fingers up to his father's known feelings on the matter. He might just as well tell his father to fvck off and have done with it. Fathers have always expressed their feelings, which I grant are not always reasonable prejudices, about the way their children dress/behave etc. Our ideals are from an older generation and, in a teenager, we expect some rebellion against them but at 31 this son clearly has no respect for his father's feelings and is certainly old enough to know better.
Personally I would make it clear that he is not welcome in my company unless he agrees to compromise and take the earing out ~ but don't listen to me, my eldest is 40 and I haven't seen him for many years ~ since in fact I told him what I thought of him and his attitudes. No earing was involved but the principle remains. If he cannot take your feelings into account than tell him so go away and grow up. In my case it probably helps that I do not live with his mother so don't have the worry about her feelings on the subject. I don't know if this is also the case with Growler ~ if not it does make matters a bit trickier but frankly if he won't listen then simply leave the house when he visits. It certainly is not worth getting yourself wound up about. If his earing and grinning upsets you then, as he arrives, leave and go into the garage, down the pub or for a walk. The message will soon get through ~ at least it did with my boy. I have no wish to see him and am frankly happier not to.
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2008, 09:14:58 AM »
I didn't know about the flaunting! I agree that is a totally different kettle of fish. I remember when I had my navel pierced just before going home for Christmas. Rather than getting off the plane wearing a full length jumper, I arrived in a crop top and open cardigan. Rubbing it in.  redface: In hindsight not the best of plans to start off a peaceful Christmas with Father Wench.  noooo:

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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2008, 09:15:56 AM »
On a less contentious note, I unearthed a crumled scrap of paper the other day which revealed that today is 'Non Uniform Day' at school. Arrangements were made.

At 8.37 this morning The Boy announced that 'Miss Dibbin' had decreed children should go in today dressed as 'Victorian Street Urchins'  evil:

In that case he could go as normal  evil:

Why wait until 13 minutes before school time to reveal this idiocy?
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2008, 09:16:31 AM »
I didn't know about the flaunting! I agree that is a totally different kettle of fish. I remember when I had my navel pierced just before going home for Christmas. Rather than getting off the plane wearing a full length jumper, I arrived in a crop top and open cardigan. Rubbing it in.  redface: In hindsight not the best of plans to start off a peaceful Christmas with Father Wench.  noooo:

Yup. It's deliberately provocative behaviour. (How did they find your navel?)
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2008, 09:18:46 AM »
I was 18 and had been a starving student for four months. Couldn't afford food.  noooo:

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2008, 09:19:48 AM »
So it would be more of a hunt these days?
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2008, 09:24:50 AM »
Well who looks exactly the same at 30 as they did as a teenager!?!? It wouldn't be that bad!

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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 09:27:16 AM »
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2008, 09:34:05 AM »
Is an earring really worth a huge family row?  scared2:

Probably not BUT a man has a right to expect some respect from his son. If the boy/man wishes to wear an earing that is his affair but why flaunt it to his father? Why not take the damn thing out when he visits if he knows it is going to upset the old man? That is what annoys ~ the obviously deliberate attempt to stick two fingers up to his father's known feelings on the matter. He might just as well tell his father to fvck off and have done with it. Fathers have always expressed their feelings, which I grant are not always reasonable prejudices, about the way their children dress/behave etc. Our ideals are from an older generation and, in a teenager, we expect some rebellion against them but at 31 this son clearly has no respect for his father's feelings and is certainly old enough to know better.
Personally I would make it clear that he is not welcome in my company unless he agrees to compromise and take the earing out ~ but don't listen to me, my eldest is 40 and I haven't seen him for many years ~ since in fact I told him what I thought of him and his attitudes. No earing was involved but the principle remains. If he cannot take your feelings into account than tell him so go away and grow up. In my case it probably helps that I do not live with his mother so don't have the worry about her feelings on the subject. I don't know if this is also the case with Growler ~ if not it does make matters a bit trickier but frankly if he won't listen then simply leave the house when he visits. It certainly is not worth getting yourself wound up about. If his earing and grinning upsets you then, as he arrives, leave and go into the garage, down the pub or for a walk. The message will soon get through ~ at least it did with my boy. I have no wish to see him and am frankly happier not to.

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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2008, 09:38:49 AM »
Meanwhile, the never ending search for the 'hidden gems' of Mrs Growlers jewellery collection continue unabated amidst much mutterings of "oh how stupid am I"?
I'm merely looking on, suggesting possible ridiculous hiding places with much sarcasm and agreement, which in essence, probably isn't helping her increasingly darkening mood. lol:

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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2008, 09:39:51 AM »
Meanwhile, the never ending search for the 'hidden gems' of Mrs Growlers jewellery collection continue unabated amidst much mutterings of "oh how stupid am I"?
I'm merely looking on, suggesting possible ridiculous hiding places with much sarcasm and agreement, which in essence, probably isn't helping her increasingly darkening mood. lol:

Satisfying, isn't it.  whistle:
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2008, 09:42:45 AM »
On a less contentious note, I unearthed a crumled scrap of paper the other day which revealed that today is 'Non Uniform Day' at school. Arrangements were made.

At 8.37 this morning The Boy announced that 'Miss Dibbin' had decreed children should go in today dressed as 'Victorian Street Urchins'  evil:

In that case he could go as normal  evil:

Why wait until 13 minutes before school time to reveal this idiocy?

The answer is to ask him nightly for all letters etc. Alternatively ask the school sec to post all such letters to you, provide her with stamped envelopes for the purpose. It worked for me. One thing I can tell you is that no child will ever bring home all notes, letters etc issued by the school and put them in your anticipatory hand on the day they were issued. You have to get smarter and be one step, at least, in front of him. You know that these letters are issued all the time and he has a track record (as do my three) of failing to hand them over until the last minute. I went to the school about it and asked what sort of trained and experienced teacher could honestly say that they believed a child would remember such things. I got a lot of bulls hit about giving the child responsibility and showing trust in them. My laughter caused some offence but I got my own way and letters come directly to me. Children have many much more important things on their minds than being used as unpaid postmen.
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2008, 09:43:32 AM »
Meanwhile, the never ending search for the 'hidden gems' of Mrs Growlers jewellery collection continue unabated amidst much mutterings of "oh how stupid am I"?
I'm merely looking on, suggesting possible ridiculous hiding places with much sarcasm and agreement, which in essence, probably isn't helping her increasingly darkening mood. lol:

Satisfying, isn't it.  whistle:

Most DS, most! lol:


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Earings problems are fast fading. Unfortunately I have got to visit Growler jnr/snr's household later on today to collect a car seat.
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2008, 09:45:17 AM »
Meanwhile, the never ending search for the 'hidden gems' of Mrs Growlers jewellery collection continue unabated amidst much mutterings of "oh how stupid am I"?
I'm merely looking on, suggesting possible ridiculous hiding places with much sarcasm and agreement, which in essence, probably isn't helping her increasingly darkening mood. lol:


I assume you have asked her if the boy's earing matches any of the missing items ~ I am not suggesting he would have nicked them but it might be worth making a point ~ what harm can it do to rub it in? ..... just as you leave the house would be best I feel. whistle:
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Re: Kids. Eldest causes explosion
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2008, 09:46:46 AM »
Meanwhile, the never ending search for the 'hidden gems' of Mrs Growlers jewellery collection continue unabated amidst much mutterings of "oh how stupid am I"?
I'm merely looking on, suggesting possible ridiculous hiding places with much sarcasm and agreement, which in essence, probably isn't helping her increasingly darkening mood. lol:

At least she admits guilt!
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