Time to unplug your computers folks

[Grumpmeister]

And yet again the Gordo's cronies jump on a chance to erode our freedoms. Now they have signed up to a European strategy that encourages police to remotely hack personal computers without a warrant.

The Home Office has signed up to an EU strategy against cybercrime that "encourages" police across Europe to remotely access personal computers.

The plan has sparked fears that the government is looking to increase police powers to hack into people's computers without a court warrant.

UK police already do a "small number" of such operations under existing law.

However, the Home Office said the EU agreement would not affect police behaviour and was not legally binding.

The plan, drawn up by the Council of the European Union, makes broad statements on how to improve European cyber crime-fighting, including inviting countries to introduce remote searches if they are already provided for under national law.

In a statement regarding the agreement, the Council stated that "the new strategy encourages [the police and the private sector] to…resort to remote searches."

British law already allows police to remotely access computers under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, which allows surveillance to "prevent or detect serious crime".

A spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) told The Times newspaper that police were already carrying out a small number of these operations among the 194 clandestine searches last year of people's homes, offices, and hotel rooms.

"The UK has agreed to a strategic approach to tackling cybercrime with other EU member states, but this is separate from existing UK laws," the Home Office said in a statement, adding that the plan is not legally binding and there is no timescale for implementing the strategy.

'Sophisticated products'

Jacques Barrot, Vice-President of the European Commission, said in a statement that the goal is to ensure EU countries are committed to the fight against computer crime.

Professor Peter Sommer, a cybercrime expert at the London School of Economics, doubts that the strategy will increase the amount of police hacking.

"The products are out there, they've been available for quite a long time and they are pretty sophisticated, however they probably aren't going to get used very much," he told BBC News.

Most anti-virus programs and firewalls will detect surveillance attempts because they are designed to stop the remote access software or Trojan-type viruses that hackers - even police hackers - usually use, he explained.

Prof Sommer also pointed out that evidence gathered from hacking is difficult to defend in court, because prosecutors must prove that it has not been tampered with.

"Normally, when computers are examined forensically, a great deal of care is taken to ensure that nothing is written to the computer when the examination is taking place," said Prof Sommer. "Once you start looking at a computer remotely, all of those controls vanish."

[Snoopy]

I know I have said this before but if you give a policeman a power he will use it .... most often for reasons that it was not originally intended. They (the police) are very good at that sort of thing and will jump at any excuse to extend their reach into the lives of everyone they come into contact with.
The police need to be controlled not given an open-ended excuse to do whatever they feel like. See recent cases of arresting people under laws which we were assured were only to prevent terrorists blowing us up.

[Snoopy]

[grumpyoldsoldier]

No bloody point hacking into mine, there is nothing on my hard drive except porn 

[Barman]

No bloody point hacking into mine, there is nothing on my hard drive except porn 

Mine to GOS... 

Unfortunately, they can lock you up for three years if a judge doesn't like your particular brand of porn now...

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 comes into force in Britain on January 26, under which Section 63 makes owning "an extreme pornographic image" illegal. The offence is punishable by up to three years in prison.

But campaigners who take part in sexual role-playing activities - such as bondage, domination and sadomasochism - believe the law will criminalise what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults.

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[Darwins Selection]

No bloody point hacking into mine, there is nothing on my hard drive except porn 

Mine to GOS... 

Unfortunately, they can lock you up for three years if a judge doesn't like your particular brand of porn now...

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 comes into force in Britain on January 26, under which Section 63 makes owning "an extreme pornographic image" illegal. The offence is punishable by up to three years in prison.

But campaigners who take part in sexual role-playing activities - such as bondage, domination and sadomasochism - believe the law will criminalise what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults.

Source

This sort of thing always smacks of 'jobs for the boys'.

They pass a new law which has a woolly and ill-defined offence which allows the whole legal system to grow fat on our money while they argue about the definition.

"extreme pornography" is about as easy to define as "blasphemy"

[Snoopy]

No bloody point hacking into mine, there is nothing on my hard drive except porn 

Mine to GOS... 

Unfortunately, they can lock you up for three years if a judge doesn't like your particular brand of porn now...

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 comes into force in Britain on January 26, under which Section 63 makes owning "an extreme pornographic image" illegal. The offence is punishable by up to three years in prison.

But campaigners who take part in sexual role-playing activities - such as bondage, domination and sadomasochism - believe the law will criminalise what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults.

Source

This sort of thing always smacks of 'jobs for the boys'.

They pass a new law which has a woolly and ill-defined offence which allows the whole legal system to grow fat on our money while they argue about the definition.

"extreme pornography" is about as easy to define as "blasphemy"

Bugger God ~ Would seem to answer them both 

[grumpyoldsoldier]

No bloody point hacking into mine, there is nothing on my hard drive except porn 

Mine to GOS... 

Unfortunately, they can lock you up for three years if a judge doesn't like your particular brand of porn now...

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 comes into force in Britain on January 26, under which Section 63 makes owning "an extreme pornographic image" illegal. The offence is punishable by up to three years in prison.

But campaigners who take part in sexual role-playing activities - such as bondage, domination and sadomasochism - believe the law will criminalise what goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults.

Source

That's me well and truly buggered then, anyone want a goat?