Not accepting blame

[Miss Demeanour]

I had to sack someone yesterday 

He was an agency member of staff so therefore didn't have to go through months of disciplinary action . He had royally f**ked up a case , then lied about it  to the 'customer', and then compounded it even further by lieing to his line manager.

He was obviously not happy about the decision yesterday but had very little to say in his defence.

Today I have had a formal response from his agency to say that he believes this constitutes unfair dismissal ( he is ffing agency staff and has only been working here for about 7 months FFS ) and also that he believes I had a personal vendetta against him. 

If I didn't I do now 

He ballsed up - accept responsibility for that and learn from it. Meanwhile I am sorry but I do not intend to pay someone £30 an hour for doing a piss poor job and creating a huge ffing mess that I now have to clear up.

He apparently has asked for a written response on why I have made this decision - that he will then consider further.,

He can go swing 

[Grumpmeister]

£30 an hour??? What job was he doing and does it need specific qualifications?   

[Darwins Selection]

He apparently has asked for a written response on why I have made this decision - that he will then consider further.,

Send him a dead fish. 

[Miss Demeanour]

I like that idea 

[Snoopy]

£30 an hour??? What job was he doing and does it need specific qualifications?   

Don't get excited GM ~ That's what the agency get paid. They have to pay his NIC out of that, his holiday pay and also any pension plan they may have. They also have to make a profit. The Temp will not be getting £30.

Miss D you should not have to sack anyone. Simply tell the agency that he is no longer acceptable. They nor he can do anything about it. That is why agency staff are often cheaper than "proper" employees.


By the way ~ I wouldn't get out of bed for less than £35 per hour or part thereof + all expenses.
FFS I was earning £22 per hour + car + BUPA + pension (non contributary) + 5 weeks holiday pa when I retired ten years ago.

[Uncle Mort]

Still a high enough paygrade to include accepting resonsibility.

[Snoopy]

Agreed and the agency should deal with him. I just don't see that Miss D needs to get involved ~ They not she are the employers in this case.

[Miss Demeanour]

Miss D you should not have to sack anyone. Simply tell the agency that he is no longer acceptable. They nor he can do anything about it. That is why agency staff are often cheaper than "proper" employees.

The agency require a 2 week notice period before you terminate a contract - I have no doubt they will ask for payment in lieu  

[Grumpmeister]

£30 an hour??? What job was he doing and does it need specific qualifications?   

Don't get excited GM ~ That's what the agency get paid. They have to pay his NIC out of that, his holiday pay and also any pension plan they may have. They also have to make a profit. The Temp will not be getting £30.

Miss D you should not have to sack anyone. Simply tell the agency that he is no longer acceptable. They nor he can do anything about it. That is why agency staff are often cheaper than "proper" employees.


By the way ~ I wouldn't get out of bed for less than £35 per hour or part thereof + all expenses.
FFS I was earning £22 per hour + car + BUPA + pension (non contributary) + 5 weeks holiday pa when I retired ten years ago.

I wasnt thinking about temping as much as offering my services to Miss D and cutting out the middle mob.  I'd even charge a third less.

[Miss Demeanour]

What services could you offer 

[Grumpmeister]

What services would you need? 

[Bar Wench]

What services could you offer 

I make a lovely cup of tea, have a marvelous phone voice and do a great line in flattery and ego massaging.

[Snoopy]

You simply state that you are not terminating a contract with them ~ but you have lost faith in their supplied temp and would like a replacement. Next week give them the required 2 weeks notice that their contract will terminate. They'll send you crap employees but at least they will be useful to make tea and do the photocopying ~ and you will have done your bit towards making the savings your masters want ~ and if the agency fails to send replacements then they are in breach of the contract and you can shoot them out of the door earlier.

[Miss Demeanour]

What services could you offer 

I make a lovely cup of tea, have a marvelous phone voice and do a great line in flattery and ego massaging.

I think you may have just found a number of suitable positions from the members here Wenchy  

[Miss Demeanour]

You simply state that you are not terminating a contract with them ~ but you have lost faith in their supplied temp and would like a replacement. Next week give them the required 2 weeks notice that their contract will terminate. They'll send you crap employees but at least they will be useful to make tea and do the photocopying ~ and you will have done your bit towards making the savings your masters want ~ and if the agency fails to send replacements then they are in breach of the contract and you can shoot them out of the door earlier.

Oh don't worry - they have been sent off with a flea in their ear. I have cited the actions as being gross misconduct and bringing the name of the Council into disrepute.

They are now forwarding me new CV's 

Just read one of them - from a bodyguard    WTF !!!!  Trained in guns , guns, and guns. Hobbies and pastimes - shooting, clay and 'other'  ...mmmm worth an interview do you think