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Offline Nick

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See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« on: July 14, 2009, 01:06:06 PM »
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Offline The Moan Ranger

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 01:24:16 PM »
What a complete and total cunt.
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 01:26:19 PM »
Predictable bollox from NuLabour.

When Old Labour (Harold Wilson) was in charge of our armed forces I found myself issued with a Lee Enfield Rifle with a manufactured date of 1945 on it. I was handed three rounds of ammunition (bullets to youse lot) and told to guard a section of the outer perimeter of an RAF base in what was then Aden.
Every hour, on the hour, the Orderly Officer came round to check that I was (i) still alive and (ii) that I still had 3 rounds. One in the rifle and one in each of the breast pockets of my shirt. The base was regularly attacked by Arab insurgents, often at night. I was very pleased to see the sun come up.

Airfield defence was obviously something we were all trained in and that training included regular sessions on the firing ranges. Wilson's Government cut backs meant that we were permitted to shoot 5 live rounds per year in training. We were literally reduced to shouting BANG!
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Offline Uncle Mort

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 01:28:55 PM »
Spike Milligan wrote something similar about when he joined the army at the start of the Secind World War.

Nothing changes.
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 02:15:37 PM »
Quote from: The Moan Ranger on July 14, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
What a complete and total cunt.
Agreed.

Cunt.

Only word to describe him... and Brown.

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 08:10:01 PM »
Quote from: Barman on July 14, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: The Moan Ranger on July 14, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
What a complete and total cunt.
Agreed.

Cunt.

Only word to describe him... and Brown.

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 09:20:03 AM »
I've always thought of Andrew Neil as a bit of a cunt as well.

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 10:15:14 AM »
His hair looks less like a brillo pad these days ~ Do you suppose he is wearing a syrup?  rubschin:
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 10:46:12 AM »
I think this focus on the number of helicopters is missing the point a bit. Yes it would be handy to have more to ferry troops around but those troops still have to get out and fight. From what I've read many of the recent deaths were in situations where they wouldn't have been using helicopters anyway.

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 11:16:27 AM »
Spot on Uncle. Troops on the ground will always be susceptible to improvised explosive devices and by definition the infantry will spend a great deal of time on the ground. There are however occasions when helicopters could have been used (for instance to transport that Regimental Commander) that would have saved lives. More importantly helicopters can also be used to remove embattled soldiers from a firefight or to bring in reinforcements very quickly and of course to lift casualties quickly to hospital and that is where we are falling down. The weasel words from the Minister about % increases just do not stand up to scrutiny. It is numbers that count. Simply adding in another crew per aircraft would, in theory, increase your flying capability by 100% per helicopter and that is what the Government has done ~ increased the crews and claim to have increased the flying capacity.
The problem is that we do not have enough machines to fly round the clock. They have to be serviced, they have to be refuelled and above all they cannot be in two places at once. The figures are that the Yanks have the same number of men on the ground in Helmand as we do but they are supported by 120 helicopters. We have fewer than twenty operational machines.
I hear what they are saying about it being a joint operation and that one force will help another but I promise you when the shit starts flying you really do want to see your own cavalry coming up the gulch ~ not some death or glory yank who is as likely to shoot you as the enemy.
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 11:24:25 AM »
And of course the Russians were doing 'OK' in Afghanistan until the USA supplied Stinger missiles to the mujahideen. Who's going to supply SAMs to the Taliban I wonder?
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 11:28:14 AM »
They seem to be doing quite well with those they are getting from Iran. Chinese in origin I'm told.
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 11:44:34 AM »
But they haven't shot down a Chinook with 55 troops on board ~ imagine the outcry if that should happen.
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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 11:49:32 AM »
Indeed but then the Taliban might think twice if we had a few more of these available

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Re: See how this cnut lies and blusters and obfuscates
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 01:07:59 PM »
Also, the thing that disgusts me is the way they try and hide behind 'operational reasons' for not revealing how many choppers they have out there... cussing:

You can bet your fucking life that he'd be appearing on every news programme available if they'd ordered new ones and were about to send another thirty out there...

Lying bunch of hypocritical fucking cunts!
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