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Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push start
Shove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast...
Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jet
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.
Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?
Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 11:30:14 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?Short of adding rockets (basically directed explosives) you won't get it. Even with reheat spool up times on turbines are always an issue for throttle response. Outside of the near constant speed Indy tracks they were useless in their short life in motorsportBest you could do is have a turbine charging batteries and electric power
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:57:21 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 11:30:14 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?Short of adding rockets (basically directed explosives) you won't get it. Even with reheat spool up times on turbines are always an issue for throttle response. Outside of the near constant speed Indy tracks they were useless in their short life in motorsportBest you could do is have a turbine charging batteries and electric powerLooking at some of the figures I'm not so sure the lack of acceleration would be that big a drawback. Compare it to the Prius and there isn't that much between them, the figures for 0-60 for the first gen are slower than the Chrysler (12.9 seconds compared to 12). Even the newer models are only a couple of seconds faster (last years model manages 10.1 seconds) and that car has seen massive sales globally. Combine that with modern manufacturing processes and materials for the frame and chassis and you could reduce the car's weight enough for the turbine to be a realistic contender.
Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 02, 2018, 12:41:32 AMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:57:21 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 11:30:14 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?Short of adding rockets (basically directed explosives) you won't get it. Even with reheat spool up times on turbines are always an issue for throttle response. Outside of the near constant speed Indy tracks they were useless in their short life in motorsportBest you could do is have a turbine charging batteries and electric powerLooking at some of the figures I'm not so sure the lack of acceleration would be that big a drawback. Compare it to the Prius and there isn't that much between them, the figures for 0-60 for the first gen are slower than the Chrysler (12.9 seconds compared to 12). Even the newer models are only a couple of seconds faster (last years model manages 10.1 seconds) and that car has seen massive sales globally. Combine that with modern manufacturing processes and materials for the frame and chassis and you could reduce the car's weight enough for the turbine to be a realistic contender.It’s the 0 to 20 response that’s ‘electric’ on a hybrid. Faster than my turbo nut mobile unless I put it in race start modeAnd round towns it’s that 0 to 20 that’s more important. A turbine would be an obstacle even for bikes
Quote from: Steve on November 02, 2018, 09:30:12 AMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 02, 2018, 12:41:32 AMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:57:21 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 11:30:14 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?Short of adding rockets (basically directed explosives) you won't get it. Even with reheat spool up times on turbines are always an issue for throttle response. Outside of the near constant speed Indy tracks they were useless in their short life in motorsportBest you could do is have a turbine charging batteries and electric powerLooking at some of the figures I'm not so sure the lack of acceleration would be that big a drawback. Compare it to the Prius and there isn't that much between them, the figures for 0-60 for the first gen are slower than the Chrysler (12.9 seconds compared to 12). Even the newer models are only a couple of seconds faster (last years model manages 10.1 seconds) and that car has seen massive sales globally. Combine that with modern manufacturing processes and materials for the frame and chassis and you could reduce the car's weight enough for the turbine to be a realistic contender.It’s the 0 to 20 response that’s ‘electric’ on a hybrid. Faster than my turbo nut mobile unless I put it in race start modeAnd round towns it’s that 0 to 20 that’s more important. A turbine would be an obstacle even for bikesIn that case a hybrid turbine sounds like it could be a winner.
Quote from: Grumpmeister on November 02, 2018, 09:46:21 AMQuote from: Steve on November 02, 2018, 09:30:12 AMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 02, 2018, 12:41:32 AMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:57:21 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 11:30:14 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 11:21:27 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 10:38:04 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 10:17:22 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 09:54:21 PMQuote from: Steve on November 01, 2018, 05:02:44 PMQuote from: Grumpmeister on November 01, 2018, 04:21:21 PMShove a jet into a Peel Trident? That said, it does look as if it would be fun to throw around a track... http://youtu.be/NTJg3N-lsL4 I was waiting to see someone try to give it a push startOk I admit the start wasn't awe inspiring but given how low you are sat once you are moving it must be a blast... No I was thinking someone would get their balls fried with the jetThe cynic in me suspects you need to see the outtakes for that scene Something that did come up as a result of that video was a Jay Leno one about his Chrysler turbine car. They made 51 of these as a prototype back in the 60's. Comparable power to a standard petrol engine and can run on anything from standard fuel to perfume (one of the test cars was driven through France on Chanel No. 5 another ran on Jack Daniels). In the end Chrysler decided to end the project and destroy most of the cars because alternative fuel wasn't a thing back then but given that it is now why have they ignored a proven technology that they could easily update.Wouldn't the abysmal throttle response of a turbine have been an issue?Something that could be updated with more modern technology?Short of adding rockets (basically directed explosives) you won't get it. Even with reheat spool up times on turbines are always an issue for throttle response. Outside of the near constant speed Indy tracks they were useless in their short life in motorsportBest you could do is have a turbine charging batteries and electric powerLooking at some of the figures I'm not so sure the lack of acceleration would be that big a drawback. Compare it to the Prius and there isn't that much between them, the figures for 0-60 for the first gen are slower than the Chrysler (12.9 seconds compared to 12). Even the newer models are only a couple of seconds faster (last years model manages 10.1 seconds) and that car has seen massive sales globally. Combine that with modern manufacturing processes and materials for the frame and chassis and you could reduce the car's weight enough for the turbine to be a realistic contender.It’s the 0 to 20 response that’s ‘electric’ on a hybrid. Faster than my turbo nut mobile unless I put it in race start modeAnd round towns it’s that 0 to 20 that’s more important. A turbine would be an obstacle even for bikesIn that case a hybrid turbine sounds like it could be a winner. Wouldn't a Stirling cycle engine be better? IIRC turbines are not exactly fuel efficient