Terry Jones

[Miss Demeanour]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8422880/Pastor-Terry-Jones-a-homophobic-used-furniture-salesman-with-a-love-of-controversy.html


So it would seem that he has got what he set out to achieve, although of course it is not his fault  .

How was he to know that the violent, extremists muslims would act out of vengeance when he and his order burned the Koran.

Don't they call it incitement or summat ????

Of course it doesn't justify any of the sickening actions that have happened in Mazar-e Sharif   

But he should hold a mirror up when he talks of extremists - vile, man 

[Barman]

Nice to see that the Religion of Peace lives up to its name. Because a pastor in Florida burned copies of their holy book, Afghans murder uninvolved people at the UN compound in Mazar-i-Sharif. They have demonstrated just why those of us who dislike their particular brand of superstition regard it as primitive, psychopathic and barbaric –  it is  primitive, psychopathic and barbaric. While book burning turns my stomach –  no matter what the book –  to murder innocent people who are entirely uninvolved with the original offence is psychotic.

Tolerance is fine and dandy. I am a tolerant person and take the view that people should be allowed to practice whatever religion they please, providing they harm no one else. However, there is no reason why we should tolerate the intolerant, the barbaric, the plain evil and there is no reason why we should defer to this savage cult and confer upon it any status other than that of pariah. There is no such thing as Islamophobia. Any hatred or fear of this cult is entirely rational. Islamophobia is no more than an artificial construct designed to stifle dissent from those of us who dare to point out that the emperor has no clothes. Islam is a nasty, barbaric, medieval cult that has no place in a liberal society. The scenes in Afghanistan show us all too clearly the naked truth of this belief system. It demands respect from us. It demands tolerance from us. This violent, intolerant creed of ignorance and superstition deserves none. When we defer to it, we place the viper to our bosom. Dhimmitude is nothing more than self destructive behaviour. I do not respect Islam; I despise it with every fibre of my being.

So, fine, I won’t stop people attending mosques. But do not expect me to respect your religion and do not expect me to believe you when you tell me that it is a religion of peace.

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I agree with him... Jones may be nutty but there are plenty of nutters in the world...

But if another nutter burnt a copy of the bible you wouldn't expect people to be slain as a result...

So the real story here (IMHO) is not a nutter burning a religious book but a religion that is so intolerant that it believes any criticism of it justifies murder... not necessarily of those directly involved...

We should fear Islam... no good will come from appeasing it... 

[Nick]

I am with BM on this one.

[Snoopy]

I cannot understand why the Yanks don't arrest that used furniture salesman and send him to the Middle East to do his book burning.

Sort of Bigot meets Bigots ..... and send John Simpson along to stand, with his head tilted in a sincere manner, to pontificate to camera about how it's all our fault.

Two problems solved in one go. That's what I call a win-win situation.

[Barman]

I cannot understand why the Yanks don't arrest that used furniture salesman and send him to the Middle East to do his book burning.

Sort of Bigot meets Bigots ..... and send John Simpson along to stand, with his head tilted in a sincere manner, to pontificate to camera about how it's all our fault.

Two problems solved in one go. That's what I call a win-win situation.

Because we value 'Freedom of speech'?

[Nick]

Freedom of speech, eh? Like this?

[Barman]

Freedom of speech, eh? Like this?

Quite so... and burning poppies on remembrance day...

We may find it disgusting but we don't go out and behead the nearest Muslim.... 

[Snoopy]

Pr'aps we should 

[Barman]

Pr'aps we should 

I'll get me knife....

[Nick]

So the next time some twat in Pakistan sets fire to a chapel I should pop down to the local kebab emporium and chuck a hand grenade into it?

Yikes, I am starting to think like a Muslim  

[Miss Demeanour]

Agree about the whole freedom of speech issue but the guy that burnt the poppy was taken to court  

[Snoopy]

Agree about the whole freedom of speech issue but the guy that burnt the poppy was taken to court  

In a nice comfy police car with all his rights respected ~ we even paid for his "defence".... b@st@rd should have been dragged there by his heels!

[Barman]

Agree about the whole freedom of speech issue but the guy that burnt the poppy was taken to court  

And beheaded?  

The whole thing is a mess in the UK driven by an hysterical press...

The US is much the same... Obama should have said that Jones is a nutter and he deplores what he did but defends his right to do it...

[apc2010]

Agree about the whole freedom of speech issue but the guy that burnt the poppy was taken to court 

A poxy 50 quid fine .......

[Barman]

The Daily Mail swaps sides faster than a pendulum. They can carry a story of a woman, often more than one, raped and then arrested under Sharia law and in the same issue they can claim that killings in Afghanistan are the fault of a book-burning guy in Florida.

Despite clear evidence that his actions have led to multiple murders and widespread violence in the Middle East, controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones has vowed to step up his provocative campaign against Islam.

He burns books. He cuts off no heads, he blows nobody up, he isn't even pouring weedkiller on live plants. As far as I know he has not even been responsible for a Chinese burn or a bruise to anyone's forearm. He's burned a few copies of a mass-produced book. The book's publishers will be delighted. They've sold those books and now they are out of circulation so anyone else wanting one will have to pay for a new one. If you want to buy my book and burn it, please, go ahead. Buy enough for a bonfire. If you burn 100 copies and send me the receipt, I'll send you a free copy and a box of matches. I promise to act offended and to 'tsk' when interviewed, and to do my best not to giggle.

Burning books harms nobody. Publishers simply print, and sell, more. As J.K Rowling discovered when the Bible Belt found out about Harry Potter, book burnings are fantastic publicity. They knock book signings into a cocked hat as far as media coverage goes, even if you do the book signing in the nude, drunk and smoking while made-up to look like a corner house in Swansea.

If you burned Bibles the Christians would be offended. If you burned the Bhagavad-Gita, Hindus would be offended. These groups, along with Jews and Buddhists and the others, would tut at you most ferociously but they aren't likely to cut your head off. Have you ever seen an enraged Church of England guy? He might give you tea with no sugar in it if you really, really push him to the limit. Then he'll apologise. If all religious people were like that, the world would be an easier place to live in. All you'd have to do is carry your own sugar.

To kill people who had nothing at all to do with the book-burning is not the act of the offended. It is the act of the totally and irredeemably insane. This is insanity beyond any hope of treatment, this is melt the key and brick up the doorway time. Someone on one side of the planet, obviously a bit of a fundamentalist, burns a book, and someone on the other side of the planet responds not by burning his holy book but by cutting a totally uninvolved person's head off. How the hell can anyone, even a Socialist, consider that in any way a rational response?

And how can the Daily Mail say that the fundamentalist Christian's admittedly insulting action makes him responsible for the lunatic response of people for whom 'fundamentalist' is far too small a word?

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Quite so...