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So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« on: June 18, 2011, 09:44:08 AM »
'The biggest walkout since the general strike': Union chief warns of action over pension reforms

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Dave Prentis, the general secretary of Unison, has now vowed: 'It will be the biggest since the general strike. It won't be the miners' strike. We are going to win.'

Methinks he should read his history books  whistle:

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The 1926 general strike in the United Kingdom was a general strike that lasted nine days, from 4 May 1926 to 13 May 1926........ It was called by the general council of the Trades Union Congress (TUC) in an unsuccessful attempt to force the British government to act ....blah blah blah....

Public service workers not working? Will we even notice?

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On 4 May 1926, the number of strikers was about 1.5 - 1.75 million

Let's not forget this is only UNISON ....... Belgium has been without a Government for a year now and when I was there two weeks ago I saw nothing to indicate that the place was any worse than it has been since I first saw it in 1964.

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 06:59:32 PM »
It'll be great if they all walk out and nobody notices...  lol: lol: lol:
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 07:03:49 PM »
Public service workers not working? Will we even notice?

That old gem eh    evil:

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 07:06:44 PM »
Public service workers not working? Will we even notice?

That old gem eh    evil:

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 07:08:02 PM »
Indeed ...how many full time workers do we have on the board  whistle:
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2011, 07:10:15 PM »
Indeed ...how many full time workers do we have on the board  whistle:

Apart from you and TMR...?  rubschin:
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2011, 07:11:28 PM »
and JOM , possibly Tipsy but she is a bit of a law unto herself   rubschin:
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2011, 07:11:46 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 07:12:43 PM »
and JOM , possibly Tipsy but she is a bit of a law unto herself   rubschin:

You, TMR, JOM and a bit Tipsy then...? Shrugs:
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 07:17:55 PM »
Tipsy is nuts  noooo:

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2011, 07:59:12 PM »
Indeed ...how many full time workers do we have on the board  whistle:

Wrong question. It should be:

How many public service workers do we have on the board?

Anyway, all they are doing is trying to protect their pensions.  I cannot fault that but the simple fact is that those pensions aren't sustainable.

Many years ago, like everyone in the company, I was on a final salary scheme with retirement at 58 on the average of the last final three years salary. Great, but it became clear to the trustees that the company could no longer afford it. Although I wasn't a trustee I was aware of the costings. So we went over to a money purchase scheme. Lumpsums were transferred, the company provided free financial advisers and we looked after our own pension provision. If we hadn't the company probably couldn't have continued. There just wouldn't have been enough income to maintain those who would/had retired.

Same goes for the public sector, except that there is a misplaced belief that the income (from taxes) would always fill the gap. It's no longer true. The public sector has grown and, although many will deny this, their salaries have risen faster than the private sector. It's hard to face reality, especially if you've been protected from market forces during your employment.

So, there will be big strikes, people will notice and will be inconvenienced but ultimately reforms will take place and people will realise that to get a reasonable pension they will have to make a proper provision.

 

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2011, 08:19:47 PM »
Excellent post Uncle

For the record I worked for local government for 33 years paying into a pension. The last twelve of those I was effectively contracted out working for a large worldwide consultant in the private sector, so I've seen both sides from close hand. I have to say I saw more bone idle f*****s and unecessary bureaucracy in the consultancy than I'd ever seen in local government
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2011, 08:28:05 PM »
I am happy to say I worked for a company that never employed any "bone idle f*****s" (at least not for long) 

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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2011, 08:33:39 PM »
Got rid of them all now have they ?  ;)
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Re: So are we in for a summer of discontent? I think not.
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 08:43:56 PM »
Got rid of them all now have they ?  ;)

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